Mon 18 Nov 2013
If God does not exist, is everything permitted?
Posted by Kyle Hubbard under Philosophy Department Blog[5] Comments
There’s a famous passage from “The Grand Inquisitor” section of Dostoevsky’s The Brothers Karamazov in which Ivan Karamazov claims that if God does not exist, then everything is permitted. If there is no God, then there are no rules to live by, no moral law we must follow; we can do whatever we want. Some philosophers, like Jean-Paul Sartre, have assumed that Ivan is right; without God there is no moral law that tells us what we ought to do. But is Ivan right? If God does not exist, then can we do what we wish? Another way to put the question is, does ethics require God?
It is important to recognize that there are at least two distinct interpretations that could be offered for Ivan’s claim that if God does not exist, then everything is permissible. First, it could be read to mean that without God we would have no motivation to be ethical. Unless we had the motivation of divine judgment or divine approbation, then we would not really care about being ethical because we would not face any ultimate accounting for our actions, neither on earth nor in heaven.
So, do we need God for ethical motivation because without it we wouldn’t be ethical? It probably depends on the person. There may be some who would not be ethical if they were convinced that God does not exist. However, there surely are many convinced atheists who still believe that it’s important to be moral. Even for theists, there are many motivations to be ethical beyond fear of divine punishment or desire for divine approval. We may want to be ethical out of a desire to fit in, a desire to avoid prison, to impress a romantic interest, or any number of other reasons. So, if Ivan’s claim means that without God no one would have any motivation to be ethical, then the claim seems to be false, at least for some people.
However, Ivan’s claim could also be taken to mean that God serves as the source of our ethical obligation. That is, without God, everything is permitted because there would be no ethical obligations without God. The only reason we must follow the moral law is because someone (God) says that we must. On its surface the claim appears to be false. Both utilitarianism and Kant’s ethics, to mention the most prominent modern moral theories, assert that we must be moral without an explicit appeal to God. To oversimplify, the utilitarian believes we ought to be moral because we desire happiness, whereas the Kantian thinks we ought to be moral because we are rational. But is our own happiness or reason enough to compel us to be ethical? That is, from the fact that “we desire happiness” or “we want to be rational,” can we claim that “we ought to desire happiness” or “we ought to be rational”? It seems to me that both the utilitarian and the Kantian need to look elsewhere for the origin of the ought, the source of moral obligation. This observation has led some to conclude that we cannot get an “ought,” i.e. a moral law, without some kind of divine lawgiver. So, if Ivan means that without God we do not have a source of moral obligation, then maybe he’s right to assert that if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.
The question could rather boil down to ‘if God is only imagined to exist, is anything NOT permitted – within the confines of one’s possibly self-righteous belief?’ See http://modernatheist.org/2013/11/23/an-ontological-argument-that-demonstrates-the-non-existence-of-god/
I feel it’s important to read the next paragraph, where the conversational partner immediately responds that a crafty chap can get away with murder, disavowing God’s authority, and disregarding his threat in one stroke. At least one person is low enough to be unencumbered by the thesis. So, which Does F.D. *mean*? Perhaps that the moral man is despondent to find himself without a guiding star, and the immoral man won’t see one even in plain sight. Pretty sad.
OR it means that “in the absence of God/Lawgiver of natural moral laws, there is then NO human obligation to any moral law – so that consequently everything and anything (even the most heinous crimes) becomes permissible … then inevitable.”
In other words: That whenever a culture descends into a “MORAL VACUUM” or “moral relativism” or “moral indifference” – “ALL MORAL RESTRAINTS” are DISCARDED in the process – so that ALL MANNER OF EVIL RUSHES IN to take up the void. This is what happened in pre-Hitler Germany and in pre-Stalin Russia.
How did this happen?
Examples: Stalin and Hitler felt “unencumbered” by moral considerations:
>> In the case of Stalin: “’You know, they are fooling us, there is NO GOD . . . all this talk about God is sheer nonsense’ 1)
So that Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (a former atheist returning to his Christian roots and as a survivor of Stalin’s Gulags) concluded: that “Men have forgotten God; THAT’s why all this has happened.” 2
In Hitler’s case: According to Max Domarus, Hitler had by 1937, FULLY DISCARDED belief in the Judeo-Christian conception of God, yet continued to use “religious-sounding rhetoric for politically-motivated (vote-buying) purposes. Alan Bullock wrote that Hitler frequently employed the language of “Providence” in defence of his own myth, but ultimately shared with the Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin, a materialist outlook, “based on the nineteenth century rationalists’ certainty that the progress of science would destroy all myths and had already proved Christian doctrine to be an absurdity”.
Just as Dawkins today maintains: “there is no such thing as ‘good’’ or ‘evil’ … just a merciless universe” (…implying there is no Lawmaker/God … so therefore we have no obligation to anyone else except ourselves and our personal desires/obsessions… and if someone is inconvenienced or even hurt – tough luck!)
… that’s exactly what also motivated both Hitler and Stalin:
- Hitler being the zealous follower of ATHEIST Friedrich Nietzche (who promoted eugenics, abortion, state-sponsored “eradication” of “useless eaters,” then invalids and dependent elderly, etc. and …
- Stalin (MILITANT ATHEIST) being the zealous follower of Marxist ATHEIST Carl Marx.
- BOTH Stalin and Hitler had REJECTED any notions of Christianity and by DISCARDING ALL MORAL RESTRAINTS, convinced themselves of the need for ever-widening JUSTIFICATION/LICENCE (thanks to clinging to the ideology of Nietzche and Marx) to become MASS MURDERERS … and as LOGICAL JUSTIFICATION for their Holocaust and Pogroms of millions of human beings.
So “If God does not exist, is everything permitted?”
Solzhenitsyn is convinced that “”Men have forgotten God; THAT’s why all this has happened.” 2
Sources:
1 E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin (Moscow: Foreign Languages Publishing house, 1940), pp. 8-12).
2 Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago (New York: Harper & Row, 1973), p. 7.
3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
I was once a metrology technician in the Air Force. In the precision measurement/standards lab, all instrumentation was compared to national standards at the NBS/NIST. Without recourse to such standards, one might just as well as hold up a saliva-wetted finger to measure wind speed or temperature. Without accurate & precise measurement, aircraft might not fly well, or get to the target, or use its radar, fire weapons, or return to base at mission end. Every other base service can be degraded, from cook to mechanic to surgeon. The laboratory standards are necessary in a physical world of things.
I suggest that the interpersonal world of men also requires standards of moral conduct. In a world without a standards giver, men find some necessity to write their own. Hammurabi erected a stele upon which the laws of the land were published. And yes, Henry VIII, Napoleon, Stalin & Hitler were others who wrote laws – & changed them as they wished. The Jews & Christians however, argued for a master law giver, a personal standard for morals & conduct who did not change or bend. The standard was embodied in God’s very person. Further, all humankind was expected to correspond to God’s personal standards of conduct. Departure from that standard was enough to bring death into human society. From the Judeo-Christian viewpoint, the “departure” is demonstrated throughout human history.
In the end, if there is no God, man is left to the wiles of the bully, the strong man & the tyrant. I paraphrase Chairman Mao – Power is in the hands of him who holds the gun.
In my view, fixed standards are necessary, in both the high technological physical world, & in the complex world of human conduct.
(Does this argument hold any truth, friends?)
if there is no god. Life is not only not necessary, it is very dangerous. Only option for the weak is to die. Powerful people will live. Even they would die one day but they can enjoy as long as they are fit. What if all the weak men in the world decide to end their life as there is no god. What the earth would do then. Or, will we born again to suffer, since we have no say even in the present birth to avoid in the first place.